environment, even though it is great, they just didn't heal as quickly. you get them in the outdoors, breathing fresh air, talking with other veterans, just like jeff said it's nice to have somebody you can relate to. >> the incident in which he was killed, did you know this person he was going out with? did he really know much about the person? >> he certainly did not have the information about this guy. he was given limited information. he should have been given more, in my opinion. but in his eyes, it is somebody from his community. he is not going to question it a whole lot. >> my understanding is that this person has blamed ptsd. does that anger you? >> i wouldn't say it angers me as much -- >> it does me. >> i think it makes me feel very, very protective for people who genuinely have ptsd. because we know a lot of them are wonderful people, serve in justice-related fields. they have huge hearts, so if something dramatic happens, they can recover from it. it doesn't change their character, they carry guns, they love their families. they may be moody. they might lose some sleep.